Why a 60 yard test for baseball? Everyone knows it’s 90 feet between bases or 30 yards, so in theory, second base is “only” 60 yards,
BUT…
If you are trying to beat out a ground ball with a play at First base, that run would easily be 30 yards, or 90 feet in a straight line. A double or triple entails running in a curved fashion, sort of like question mark (?)… you would start straight from home plate, then run wide to touch the bag at first base in a curved fashion.
Thus the 60 yard dash is only valuable to show straight line linear speed and really nothing else. What is important is the ability to score from second base to home plate with two outs!
Most Major League Baseball (MLB) clubs look for times under 7.00 seconds. A 60 yard dash time between 6.7 – 6.9 usually equate to an average runner on the playing field.
In 2006, 189 different players were timed for 60 yards at the Puma All-American Event in Tuscon, AZ. Only 14 players were timed at 6.99 or faster (or about 7.5% who showed up for the test).
The 60 Yard testing protocol is very similar to a 40 Yard dash where you start from a comfortable stationary 3-point stance position.
How fast is a sub 7 second 60 yard dash?
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I ran a 7 flat and im in high school bitchess!
Ha ha i ran a 6.82 when i was a junior i let you know what i get this year. hit me up linden high school linden Michigan
What are the conditions that these tests should be run reliably? My son has been to a few camps where the 60 has been run, but the conditions seem to be vary. For instance, some are on grass, some on turf, some want you in cleats others do not, and hand times are used. Depending on the person, hand times can vary as much as .5 which is a lot!! My son is 16 (DOB Nov 93) currently runs a 6.4 on a track without blocks…normal standing start, how does this measure up?
i ran a 7.3 and im in 8th grade so suck it bitchesss
I run a 6.5. That is faster than anybody ive seen in person. You dont know someone faster than that yet you say 6.7 to 6.9 is average?! That is WAY off! your study proved that. Only 14 players ran under 7.
1. Your son most likely does not run a 6.4 in a 60. The fastest MLB players run barely faster than a 6.4 and I doubt your son is faster than most MLB Players.
2. If you run a 6.5 G-d bless you you’re fast. This article is pretty much accurate most MLB players run in the 6.7-6.9 range unless you hit bombs for a living then above a 7 is fine.
The 60 yard test, like the 40 yard dash, is subject to discrepancies with hand timing.
The fastest 60 time in the mlb was a 6.18 by Bo Jackson ..
I am looking to play Division I baseball in college. To play middle infield at a school with a good baseball program, what kind of 60 time do I need? I recently ran a 6.7
Josh: Yes, my son does run 6.4 on a track using electronic timers and he most recently ran a 6.85 on grass in baseball cleats. I suspect MLB 60 yd times are also ran in baseball cleats on grass and with handtimers. This is why some people report running faster than MLB players because they don’t run in the same conditions. Having said that, I do know of people who have run 6.4 in cleats on grass, so yes they are faster than the average MLB player. I would also suspect they would run a 5.9/6.0 on a track.
you have to be mad to say an MLB player will run 5.9/6.0 if they were on track.that kind of time is faster than even usain bolt’s 60m.so what you are saying they also have a chance of running a 9.40 to 9.50 in a 100m dash
My son recently attened the DeMarini Top 96 camp and ran a 6.26 60
no he didn’t
My son is 14 years old and plays baseball for a select baseball team here in North Texas, I used to always make fun of him because how slow he was (at least that is what I thought). Then one day his pitching coach told me that he ran a 7.0 60 yard dash and told me that was fast.
your son does not run a 6.4 that would put him in class with some of the worlds best atheleats and mam your son is only 14 you lie lie lie
Everyone:
When posting your times, can you specify the “conditions” that you were timed under please. For example:
1) Timer: Electronical OR hand timed
2) Field: Grass, Astroturf or Track
3) Shoes: baseball cleats, turfs shoes, track cleats, running shoes
All of these conditions make a difference when timing. For example, if you were hand timed, there is a good possibility that your time could vary .25 seconds which is huge in the 60. Also, it does stand to reason that wearing baseball cleats and running on grass will cause you to run slower than running on a track in track cleats.
Jack: I don’t know if you were directing your comment at me (your son doesn’t run a 6.4), but you underestimate your audience. My son trains with an ’84 Olympian track athlete and was timed in the 60 at 6.4, on a track, wearing track cleats, electronically timed. He recently ran a 6.70, hand timed, on grass, wearing baseball cleats.
theres no chance in hell any of you are telling the truth, your son does not run a 6.26 proudmom, and KBF no way your son runs a 6.4, you dont expect us to really believe that B.S fo you? Im a sophmore in high school and i run a 6.9, running that 6.9 got me contacted by the assistant at Unveristy of Michigan. so if your kids are running 6.2′s and 6.4′s they must be getting signed to play in the MLB
Chase, perhaps because of your limited exposure to runners in the “rest” of North America, you believe that nobody can be faster than you…and if they are, they must be going to the show? I can assure you that 6.9 is a great time but there are a lot of people faster than you are and they all aren’t going on full-rides or to the show!
My son trains with a former Olympic gold medalist. He is an above average runner and an exceptional athlete. He is a nationally ranked swimmer (top 5) and ballplayer (top 5). He could go have gone on a full-ride for track or swimming but chose baseball instead because it’s his thing. Btw: He recently ran a 4.39/40 in spikes on a track…look up how fast that is!
A 6.4/60 in spikes with an electronic timer is way different than the average MLB player time. MLB players run in baseball cleats and on grass or turf…not cundusive to the best times. So, when you compare a 6.4 or 6.5 to MLB, please understand this subtle difference.
Lastly, as you know speed isn’t the only factor at becoming an MLB player. You still have to know how to hit, field, throw and play the game etc. Speed is important but not the defining attribute because some positions don’t require speed (like catchers, pitchers, 3B and 1B)
Hope this helps. Good luck with your running career!
How olds your son? where does he play baseball at? if hes not in college where has he recieved offers from?
I was a former professional player in the minor leagues with the Anaheim (Los Angeles) Angels. I have a sprinting background and I was rated #3 fastest in all of the minor leagues in 2000 with a 6.28 secs 60 yard-dash that I ran in baseball cleats from a base stealing sideways stance during training camp in March of 2000. Carl Crawford was rated #1. That was published in Baseball America magazine in 2000 and I was also rated the fastest baserunner in the Angels’ organization for that year. The conditions that day were sunny, probably in the 20 celsius range, dry and on well-groomed grass against other players in the organization in Mesa, Arizona. Apparently, according to one of the coaches I ran a sub-6.20 earlier that day but in Baseball America magazine it listed me as 6.28 and possibly the fastest Canadian player ever. I came off major ankle surgery the previous September of 1999 and rehabbed at Physiotherapy Associates’ clinic in Tempe, Arizona. It was first-class training that was similar to NFL combine-style training. I would have liked to see how fast I would have ran if I had an entire year of that style of training without the major ankle reconstruction before hand. I was 6’0″, 190 lbs. when I ran that.
Without being arrogant, I can say that back then virtually no other baseball player would beat me in a 60 yard dash. A pure track athlete, sure.
Anyways, for those throwing out random 6.4, 6.3 times, I’m pretty doubtful.
Handtimes are pretty loosey goosey and certainly subject to human error.
Good for you if you’re running those times. You should end up getting drafted if you honestly are that quick and are a decent baseball player.
Ed
Thanks Ed, for the insight. Just to let everyone know, Ed is the real deal. He trained with my Club (post baseball) and I have videos of him running track to prove it. He makes a few good points: yes, there are pure track guys that can run faster than fast baseball players. But just because you can run fast, or bench 315lb, doesn’t mean you can make it to the Majors, let alone get drafted and play in the Minors.
Thanks for clarity from experience. I have a Team USA player as a son who dominated his group at trials for 14′s. On grass in Cleats 6.9. Not saying he is fastest kid on earth in cleats (although he has been gunned at 88mph), but 6.4 would be crazy speed in thos conditions.
i ran the 60 in 5/7 5/8 5/6 three times in a row
your 14 year old son does not run a 6.4
umm is a 6.9 fast for a sophmore in high school??
I’m 32 years old,a former minor league outfielder and 2 hole hitter, and now a high school coach. A few weeks ago, I ran a laser timed 6.7 60 to shut up some of my players. We are a top tier baseball program in Louisiana, and the fastest player I ever had ran a 6.4 60 when the Braves came to scout him. I don’t know many D1 or pro prospects running sub-6.5s, especially 13 or 14 yrs old. In my playing days, the fastest I was clocked at was 6.4 at the U of Miami in front of 13 scouts. I was on grass, in baseball cleats, laser timed, in whatever stance we wanted (I used 3 point with one hand up – sprinters stance). Good luck, it’s a difficult road to the show.
Does anybody realize that you have to be good at baseball in order to play in the MLB? Yeah speed would increase your chances but come on. All y’all are talking about is how these kids will make just because of their speed. I run a.6.8-6.9 and have been contacted to play college and Im about to be a senior. My friend from Madison Central was drafted to the Angels last year and he was running a 6.5-6.6. Faster than the average MLB player.
tim your saying you ran a 5:6 second sixty your either jesus or you drove the 60, i run a 7 flat 60 im a sophomore in highschool if you constintly work on your time you will get it down maybe not to 6:4 but 6:6 6:7
I am 47 years old and being scouted by numerous coed softball teams. I train with an ’84 Olympian. Recently, I ran a 6.35 on grass with ALL white Chuck Taylor’s. I was timed by my 102 year old blind grandma! You know grandma’s don’t lie. Surface was 60 yards of weeds. If I didn’t have vertigo I would have ran faster.
I would like to know if my 6.81 is a good time for a MIF 16 years old in Highschool i only throw about 81 across the IF so hopefully that improves, but anyway KBF your another one of those parents who thinks thier kid is the best at everything but reallly your probably exaggerating everything…my bad i ment to say i run a 4.31 60 yard dash<3
Chase. Yes, excellent time for your age. The division I standard for a MIF is around 6.7 – 6.9. Your 81 volicity is good. Your volicity will get better as you get older and stronger.
Chase et all: My son ran a 6.4 / 60 on a track in track spikes using an electronic timer. DID YOU MISS THIS POINT? This is entirely different then running in baseball cleats on turf or grass using handtimers or electronics. My son ran a 6.55 – 6.7 in cleats on grass three times in a row (with 5 minutes between runs). And btw he throws 90+ across the diamond and is turning 18 this yr.
The main reason for my post was to see what people are experiencing in terms of conditions because there doesn’t seem to be a standard by which coaches, scouts etc record and communicate times or perhaps there is an unwritten rule that people don’t realize.
I have personally been to many camps where players where timed on grass and using hand timers while others used electronics. Hand timers can be out as much as .25 which is huge when deciding if a player is fast or not. The difference between a 6.4 – 6.6 can be literally 1 to 1 1/2 running strides. Doesn’t seem like much but it’s huge in the speed community.
So, if you think I’m one of those “parents” who exagerate everything, what if I told you I was an Olympic track athlete myself and that I played baseball? Different conversation now – right? The reality is I’m not. My son runs with a forner Olympic track runner who won a medal in the 1984 Olympics. He also is a Nationally ranked swimmer. Do you have any idea how much track and swimming athletes train?
So, these are facts if I didn’t want to draw attention to him, I would tell you more specifics. What is amazing to me as I read the negative posts, is that you and others truely believe that nobody else could be better or faster. This is so ignorant it’s amazing. Think about it…you believe that the World is only as you’ve experienced it??
Chase: Your time is above average and should get faster if you dedicate time to it and as you get stronger. If you are as good playing the game as your speed indicates, you future is bright.
For all of you saying that you run a 6.4 or 6.5 or even a 6.6 60 yd sprint you may want to be a little more realistic with yourselfs. The fastest man in the NCAA Jeffrey Demps from the University of Florida ran a 6.53 60. There are really only a small percentage of ELITE players that may run a sub 6.6. In the MLB a few years ago there was only a small percentage of players running under a 7 flat. Make sure your distance is correct and remember the hand start and hand stop varies with each person. Ensure you use multiple timers if you are using this technique.
wow nott 2 be cocky nd all but.. i ran 50meters in a 6.2 nd if u translatee that it makes it a 6.75 nd im only going into da 9th gradee
Why everyone so negative on KBF. I am a former sprinter and KBF son’s times are possible. Yes KBF son he is very fast and his time can be legit for someone that is very fast at his age. Congrats to your son KBF. My son is only 15 (late bloomer and still growing) however already runs 6.9 – 7.1 60 yard on grass. Of course it is very tight and compact grass that makes a difference. Based on where he is now he projects to run 6.4 – 6.5 at least on track in spikes. He is also a very good baseball player.
Chuck Smith: Jeffery Demps ran a 6.53 / 60 metre….there is a huge difference between 60 yds and 60 metres. -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffery_Demps
Agree that using more handtimers is better. However, track times still shouldn’t be compared to baseball or combines because my experience is that combines start timing on 1st move and this is hugely different then starting from blocks because it doesn’t measure reaction time and that alone can be a difference of .21 – .25. Factor that in plus handtime descrepencies and you can have .5 difference. This is my point. Unless we communicate the conditions, there is no way to accurately compare.
BD: Thanks. Good luck to your son.
Here’s an article from the PA hall of fame. This gives an example of a sprinters speed in HS. I think alot of people doubt your son’s speed due to ignorance or their lack of ability. I wouldn’t worry about it. I ran track in HS and competed at the state level. I ran a 6.4 in the 60 YARD dash. The winner had a time of 6.3. I also played at a D1 school. You are correct. I think alot of people are comparing turf to track times which is totally different.
Greg Moore – Ben Franklin (Philadelphia, 1977). Pennsylvania’s outstanding short sprinter in the mid-1970’s, Moore tied the state record three times in the 100-yard dash at 9.5, and was the first Pennsylvanian to hit 10.5 for 100 meters. Limited in his competitive opportunities because the Philadelphia Public League was not then a member of the PIAA, Moore was a champion on a still bigger stage, winning the Eastern States 100-yard dash as a senior. Indoors, he equaled the state record for 60 yards with a hand-timed 6.2, and also became the outright record holder with automatic timing when he won the Philadelphia Track Classic scholastic title at 6.40. An outstanding relay runner, he ran on a winning Penn Relays championship 4×100-meter team in 1976 which set a state record, and also ran on state record indoor relays for 880 and one mile.
I’m 14 and I run a 6.9
My coach told me to go see a running coach and he told me that with training I 6.6-6.5 is a very attainable goal
I Just Recently Ran A 6.78 My First Run 6.68 My Second.
Depending On Whether you Start In A Sprinters Stants or in A Stealing Position Will Make A Big Difference. My Coaches Timed Us In A Stealing Position. If In Sprinters Position My Coaches Said I Would Probaly Run 6.4-6.5. He also Told Me My Running Technique was horrible but I Just Had Natural Speed.
I definitely think that running a consistent 6.8 at-least is attainable for a lot of players.
By the way, I have seen players earn baseball scholarships on the 60 alone.
Just sayin……..:)
KBF just wondering where did your son end up playing college? and whats he at now in the 60?
whats the fastest 60 ever?
Bob Hayes once held the 60 yd dash world record at 5.9 secs (1960+s). He ran that in track shoes out of blocks- so I doubt anyone is running sub 6 sec 60s on this board. The world record for 60 METERS is 6.3 secs by Maurice Green. 60 meters is about 5.5 yds longer than 60 yds.
anything under 7.0 for 60 yds will get serious looks by D1 univ baseball programs. Mid inf or CF will need to run 6.5 – 6.6 for top tier D1 baseball programs. There are a few that will run faster. My son was at an Area Code event last summer and a boy ran a 6.35 hand held on grass. My son ran a 6.8 and was rated a “plus” on speed. 3rd fastest in attendance. over 150 athletes there.
A kid in texas named austin schotts posted a 6.30 and a 6.32 on grass from a baseball start,in Jan 2012 this year, is believed to be the fastest in the 2012 mlb draft.
I know there is another kid from TX in the MLB draft running a 6.30 don’t have his name handy, but I have seen both of them play and they both fly!
I will believe this when I see the players times listed on Perfect Games websites, the number one baseball player evaluation and scouting organization in the world.
Greg , the schotts kid posted a 3.56, 3.6 and 3.7 home to first times this year! I think you should open up some other avenues of player evaluation. Just a thought
Coach F: Great information.
I ran a 7.04 60 yard and im in 8th grade,
My son just turned 16 (2014 Grad) and ran 6.80. The grass he was running on was rough. If it were smooth , tight, and well groomed grass: would have been faster. Projecting him to go under 6.5 in the future.
Here is the YouTube of him running.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGT0FHVH6Ow
Or do a search of Garrett Wise on YouTube.
thats the gayest video ive ever seen, first of all an iphone isnt a realiabe timer, secondly you speed up the frames per seconds on the throws and swings. your son needs to gain weight hes a twig
Cheese, Would like to keep things positive on this board. The time you see in viedo is accurate. I Phone has a stop watch function built into it that is realiable. Also, not his best time. Has ran faster. No frames were speeded up to make things look faster on throws and swings. The timing and filming were by an independent party. As for weight. Just a kid that is still growing tall, Will fill out. Baseball is not a weight contest. Physical tools rule.
i ran a 6.02 last winter with 2 pulled hamstrings and the summer prior to that a 5.88 with a torn ACL. If you cant run under 6.10, you have no chance to start for any high school in the country.
Drew, get a tape measure and mark off 180 feet and time off of that. No dis respect, the times you are stating would make you at the least a national class sprinter. At perfect game national showcases, only a small percentage of players will run under 7.0.
Just a quick follow up to my previous post. The 60 yard record at the Perfect Game National Showcase (Most prestegious Showcase in amature baseball) is 6.11 set by Mitchell Shifflett of VA in 2009 .
i think drew was being sarcastic bd…
i ran a 6.61 today at baseball tryouts but i run a 4.54 forty
Good Job Densan. You are very fast. Try doing some flying 30′s. (i.e get up to full speed then go full speed for thirty yards.) By doing this your second half of the 60 will get faster and you will run the 60 even faster. By your 40 time, looks like your 30 yard acceleration is good. However, still put in som time also doing 30 yard sprints. If possible have someone time you in both flying 30′s and acceleration 30′s so you can monitor progress. Please post your progress. Will be interesting to know.
hey thnnxx for the help really appreciate it
my forty is 4.51 knocked a little off it and my 60 is still 6.6—6.63
I ran the 60 at Tartleton State University in Stephenville, Tx. back in 1987. I was a 23 year old fresh out of Jr. College and had played baseball for 2 years. I was clocked by the Pittsburgh Pirates during 2 runs in a group of 3 guys. My first time was 6.57. On grass, wearing Mizuno steel cleats. The second time was 6.54. Never forgot that day. Most thought I ran track which I did not. I was still beat out by a high school kid from Bremen who ran a 6.5 FLAT!!
@KBF, either you were lied, or you’re an ignorant fool. Being 16 and running a 6.4 is good and all, but wait til he gets his growth spurt and gains some weight. Everybody ran faster when they were 140lbs. Wait until he’s playing in the big boy league with 190lb+ people to brag about speed. okay? :)
@At all the idiots bragging about running a 7.0+ and being in the big ol’ 8th grade!! just shut up…you obviously lack in the speed department and won’t even be able to make a decent high school team with that kind of time, so don’t come here and embarrass yourself by posting that. #strengthandconditioning
If you log onto perfect game.org and look up derrick robinson, he ran a 6.19 on the 60 yard dash. Which that is crazy fast. I also have a friend in college now who ran a 6.3 his senior year in high school(on a track) but also ran another 6.3 in his freshman year of college! he currently leads NCAA in stolen bases.
Alex Roberts of Stuart, Fl ran a 6.4 60 at Team USA last year and was clocked at a 6.1 by the braves scout. He also just placed 4th in the Fl state track while running the 100 meter and pulled his hamstring after a bad start. photos and article on Internet.
He plays center field, hits just south of .500 and has been a participant at the Perfect Game Showcase.
He is a junior at Community Christian Accademy and coached by Ric Baldwin.
Is a 7.02 fast for a 14 year old
My son ran a 7 flat. His best time was 6.9. I would say he was fast, but I saw faster. The point being is that this is one part of a package. You also have to hit, hit for power, field, and throw hard and accurate. So I do hope all your boys do well. My son is going into his junior year and has played for several scout teams including his current team. The goal is to do their best and their hard work and talent will bring them the rest of the way. I hope you teach the children that you can be confident and have class still in this game. What do I know, I have only coached for 14 years. Good luck to all your children.
the fastest time i have ever seen was a 6.2 60 in college by a hawiian kid he could fly and you can easily tell the difference in who can do it and who cant. if your son runs that tell him to keep it up and to work with shoots they are the best for speed… i myself ran a 6.6 60…