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What the hell is going on…9.69 on a sick groin…This simply mean Gay should have been running 9.50s last year and should be running 9.50s or better next season.
I would think his sick groin is a blessing…
Tyson Gay is a fraud…..All these years running the 100m and only able to have a PB of 9.75. but now he running 9.71 and 9.69 on a sick groin that need surgery, yeah right…
Nothing wrong with his groin, or its the pain killer having a adverse reaction…If his groin was that bad, he would have gone under the knife mediately after Berlin so he could have a good long recovery for next season….but he still running.
A truly amazing performance by Tyson Gay. As a Jamaican I do want to see Bolt winning the 100 metres but I do want to see him get some real competition and Gay seems intent on providing this.
IAN BATSON-WRIGHT says
Anthony, Tyson has been running through the pain this season, and has learned to deal with his condition.
It could be that he goes home, has the operation, and it’s not successful, and we never see him run again!
SO, if he has the chance to earn a few thousand dollars more, during what maybe his last season, then why shouldn’t he keep running, if he’s able to?
Hopefully, it’s not his last season, and if so, it sets everything up for 2010 with Usain Bolt (& Co)!
We all suffer and feel a bit ashamed when you state that Tyson Gay is a fraud. One of the reasons I love this website is because the people posting here express themselves with a certain kind of civility, humility and decency towards others. Currently, Tyson Gay is the second best sprinter in the world. He has surpassed Asafa Powell and that is nearly impossible. What he has accomplished considering his overall condition is simply astounding. I would applaud you in the same way if you were to post similar numbers as he has, injury or no injury. Ian Batson-Wright astutely points out some considerations that Mr. Gay has obviously dealt with this season. The best of wishes in your running program.
Jimson Lee says
On the coaching point of view, I am wondering if Periodization can be thrown out the window with athletes holding one long peak from June – Sept… or longer! Asafa is known to set World Records in June and September.
Fraud is a strong word. Unless he is a magician I don’t know how you put fraud and 9.69 in the same sentence. Tyson clearly has a very strong work ethic.
Though, I am suspicious of politics. The “injury” did make it convenient for America’s No. 1 sprinter Tyson to avoid getting left in the dust earlier in the season. Not to mention the effect on his market value if he lost big before Worlds.
What I think everyone is missing except Jimson (who wouldn’t be “politically correct” for his blog if he came right out and said it)
“HOW THE HELL DO YOU RUN 9.69 INJURED?
Have any of you broke 10.5 healthy?
Secondly, if a pain killer allows an athlete to perform a personal best (not to mention American record). That pain killer should be banned if it isn’t already.
C’mon folks what happen to common sense?
I trust people. If someone says that he or she is injured I take that person at his word unless otherwise proven. Robert Gallery of the Oakland Raiders played the entire 4th quarter with a broken left fibula this past Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs. He is the team’s best offensive lineman and played one of best quarters as a Raider with that severe injury. I look for the good in people and not some unknown political motivation that plays to our worse characteristics or paranoia. The history of the world is full of stories of people accomplishing great achievements while under the worst of physical disabilities and injuries. A number of those would be classified as personal bests. Personally, I’m sure I never broke 11.5 in the 100, healthy or otherwise.
We are on the same side. I give people the benefit of the doubt sometimes even to my detriment. Though, I’m not paranoid. I’m experienced to know a bit about professional sports including marketing and medicine.
By the way, unless it’s a personal, family, state or national emergency-playing injured and putting your future health at risk is not heroic, it’s stupid (regardless of how much the pay).
Jimson Lee says
Wasn’t Jesse Owens injured with a bad back prior to his 6 World Records in 45 minutes? (It was actually 4 WR and 2 EWR based on distance conversion). He had to be helped into his warm up suit. Then magically before the starter shouted “set”, as his hips rose in the blocks, the pain went away. The rest is history.
Ian Batson-Wright says
There are so many examples of people PRing, or performing at their best (or very close to it) in a wide range of sports, when they weren’t at their best, or maybe just coming back from injury.
Eight years ago, just after he ran the WR of 9.79, Mo Greene ran 9.82 with his knee heavily strapped (which I consider more impressive than the 9.79)!
How many men have ever 9.82 (healthy or otherwise?) .
YET, after that run, Mo never ran 9.82 or faster again – how do you explain that? Some things are just the way they’re meant to be!
Even when Usain ran the WR in Berlin – 19.19 – he said that he was surprised that he ran the record because he was really tired from running all of the 100m races and the heats of the 200m PLUS his running style / form was off AND because he had missed weeks of endurance training in the spring when he had his car accident……..THOUGH, some sceptics may question whether he really did hurt his foot or if the car accident ever took place!!
You see, we can all be sceptical, and question everything – but if there’s no evidence of any wrongdoing, then why not let things stand?
I wouldn’t say that anyone is wrong for being suspicious of Tyson feigning injury because it’s their choice to believe that, and everyone is entitled to their opinion.
However, the comment about banning painkillers makes no sense to me!
If it’s a drug, ban it and the athlete caught taking it, but ban painkillers???????
Look people….no way on planet earth Gay could have run 9.69 injure…The injure argument is just a strategic move to avoid some race…If he ran 9.71 in the 100m in Berlin on a injure groin, he could have gotten the silver in the 200m and not even trying, he could have gotten the sliver using 60% of his energy. One more race would have killed him.
If Tyson Gay ran 9.69 injured then mathematically he should be running 9.4 in 2010…. If he is indeed injured, then his injury have no effects on his performance.
Take a few second and think about it…Before he was injured, his PB is 9.75 and he ran many 9.8 and 9.9…Now he got injured that should hinder him from running at his personal best but with his injured groin, he was able to run a few 9.75, one 9.71 and one 9.69.
I would think that his injured is nothing to the extend to prevent him from performing at his best, his injured is more a bad case of shave bumps causing friction…
IAN BATSON-WRIGHT says
You know what? We don’t know for sure what the deal is, but let’s just hope Tyson is healthy and comes back stronger and faster than ever!!
If we assume that Tyson was injured, and he took silver in the 100m in Berlin, and thought to himself, ” I’ve got the silver, I don’t want to push my groin too hard, so I’ll drop the 200m, and save myself for the few meets that I have over the rest of the season, so that I can earn some more money before I travel back home”, then I would tell him that that was a smart move!!
If Tyson comes back next year and runs 9.79 or 9.89, some people could argue that the surgery wasn’t successful, and some will say, if he’s not injured anymore, why is he running slower than this year?
If he runs 9.69, some people will ask why, if he’s not injured anymore, is he not running faster? Or maybe he’s still injured, IF he was actually injured in the first place!
And if he runs 9.58 or faster???
(Anthony – running 9.69 injured does not equate to 9.4 fully fit! Like I said yesterday, Mo Greene ran 9.82 injured, but ‘only’ ever ran a mere 3/100s faster when fully fit!)
There are dozens of questions that could be asked, and assumptions that could be made, but like I said, we don’t know what the deal is!
Let’s just see what happens in 2010!
Anyone have the splits time?
I think Tyson with a poor start and a poor first meters must achieve the 44k/h speed barrier once again. In Berlin he made a 0,81 10 meter split: 44,4 k/h and Bolt 45 K/h.
Perhaps he achieve the 0,80 10 meter split, the 45 k/h speed? I remember when scientist said that 44 k/h is the human limit, personally Tyson Gay is the pinnacle that a human with a normal body (height) can achieve.
I’ve really getting crazy searching over two months the splits of this race by Internet!!