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[VIDEO] 800 meter Training and Moving up from 400m

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January 10, 2012 by Jimson Lee 2 Comments

Last Updated on July 10, 2014 by Amir Rehman

I created an 18 minute video on 800 meter training, with an slight emphasis for 400 meters moving up in distance.

Scroll below for the video, or click here for the video on YouTube.

Here is the presentation in PowerPoint with the transcript of the 12 slides on AuthorStream.  You can also download the PPT or Video file (MP4 version) or get the transcripts from that link as well.

Below is the executive summary, with references to the charts and diagrams.

Considerations before Moving Up

There are hundreds of reasons or considerations on why you may consider moving up to the 800 meters. Here are only a handful:

  1. current 400m time and desired 800m time
  2. compare with standards in your age group, or local area
  3. chronological age of the athlete
  4. training age of the athlete (i.e. how many years of serious training)
  5. physical attributes of the athlete (tall, skinny, etc)
  6. current coach, teammates and support group
  7. desire for aerobic work
  8. mental toughness… at 500m they are all going to start kicking for home. Are you ready for it?

Bring out the Calculators

  1. 4 seconds per lap rule
  2. 5 seconds per lap rule
  3. double plus 10 second conversion (Canada’s Gary Reed)
  4. double plus 12 second conversion
  5. double plus 14 second conversion, IAAF “B” standards are 45.95 and 1:46.60

Sample 400m PRs and Splits of Elite Athletes

I took a random sample of a few well known athletes (my favorites… if you have some to add, please comment below)

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Random Sample of Elite 400-800m times

It’s interesting that the men in 1:41 range “only” had 46 second 400m speed!

800-meter-splits

The golden secret to 800 meter success? It’s all about speed reserve!

800 meter Training Weekly Cycle

800 meter training requires optimal balance of Anaerobic/Aerobic training… more than any race distance!

So things get pretty busy for a 800 meter runner. That’s because you have to squeeze in the following (thus 2 workouts a day is the norm):

  1. speed track sessions (anywhere from 30-400m, depending on your philosophy)
  2. 800m race pace track sessions
  3. over distance 1500m track sessions
  4. steady state or Tempo or VO2 runs (1 or 2X per week)
  5. easy recovery runs (4 or 5X per week)
  6. long run (1 per week)
  7. strength/weight training (2X per week)
  8. circuit training or other training (Pilates, yoga, speedbag, etc).

So a sample training week for a 800m would be something like this assuming hard sessions in the AM for weather reasons. Some 800 meter runners like the recovery run in the AM to allow more time before the afternoon track workout.

  1. Monday: AM – strength training PM – recovery run
  2. Tuesday: AM – speed session PM – recovery run
  3. Wednesday: AM – circuit training PM – steady state running
  4. Thursday: AM – distance intervals PM – recovery run
  5. Friday: AM – strength training PM – steady state running
  6. Saturday: AM – 800m session PM – recovery run
  7. Sunday: AM – long run

800 meter Training Video

Other 800 meter Training articles

  • Steve Ovett 800 meter Training
  • 800 meter Training with Scott Christensen
  • Peter Snell’s 800m Training for 1:44.3 800m WR
  • The Arthur Lydiard Method – Training from 800 meters to Marathon
  • Was Arthur Lydiard Right All Along?
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Category icon800m-Mile,  Coaching,  Track & Field,  Training Tag iconArthur Lydiard,  Speed Reserve

About Jimson Lee

I am a Masters Athlete and Coach currently based in London UK. My other projects include the Bud Winter Foundation, writer for the IAAF New Studies in Athletics Journal (NSA) and a member of the Track & Field Writers of America.

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  1. Bryano says

    January 20, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    I don’t understand your weekly schedule. Why would you put strength training on Monday, Wed and Friday, and then have track intervals (I’m assuming some of these are considered harder breakdown work) on the off days. Especially the Tuesday workout which you are calling a speed session.

    Strength training and speed sessions should always be on the same day to get all the breakdown occurring and then all the recovery on the other days. Even better, would be to have 2 recovery days between hard breakdowns. It is not a matter of just fitting everything into the week, but in maximizing the body’s ability to breakdown and then recover.

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