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Remembering CharlieFrancis Forum (10 Years later)

May 11, 2020 by Jimson Lee Leave a Comment

Charlie Francis passed away on May 12, 2010.

Before Facebook and YouTube, he had the Forum from 2000-01 to 2010.

All this, because Derek Hansen and I made that trip to Alwyn Cosgrove’s gym in Santa Clarita, CA in February 2001. We each paid $550 USD to attend.

Top left: PJV Bottom left: KitKat Bottom right: Tyrone

After 19 years being introduced to CF or the CFTS:

  • I’m still NOT a fan of the Hi-Lo program, which is short to long, at least not for Masters athletes. Put it this way, it has not worked for me.
  • I’m still NOT a fan of contrast showers (hot/cold). I live in an old house, and it takes 1-2 minutes before the hot water kicks in. I REALLY should stand under that cold shower and deep breathe, but I’m chicken (or a cat who hates water)
  • Vertical Integration: doing ALL the components ALL of the time (or Charles Staley’s Horizontal Summation)
  • Bench press on a Swiss ball: It’s OK to do bench press. It’s OK to do Swiss ball exercises. But for God’s sake, not at the same time!
  • If you still can’t master Power Cleans, don’t do them!
  • “Rupert” would ban people by mistake, or for the wrong reasons
  • I learned more about GCT (ground contact time), RFD (rate of force development), GRF (ground reaction forces), concentric contribution, and stiffness requirements. This was well before I heard it from Ralph Mann at the 2007 USATF NPEP.
  • I learned the science between Acceleration and Max Velocity.

Remember!
Acceleration: Lower force production, longer RFD, longer horizontal direction and longer GCT
MaxV: Greater force production, shorter RFD, longer vertical direction and shorter GCT

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But the most important messages are:

  • I learned as much, if not more, from other “coaches” on that forum
  • People spent so many selfless hours helping other people for free
  • Derek Hansen is an amazing graphic artist. His charts and graphs are still implanted in my brain. I wish he could do charts of all my subjects when I was in school. I would get 100%.
  • It’s OK to Disagree, just don’t be Disagreeable

Fun Facts:
“What is the difference between a 9.58 and a 10.08 100 meter sprinter? half a second? 0.50 sec? No, it’s 0.01 seconds, because 50 steps x 0.01 seconds = 0.50 seconds.

Thank you Charlie, and thank you to all the Coaches, Athletes, and Trolls who made me a better coach.

I’m still learning (especially the recent webinars with Vince Anderson, Caryl Smith Gilbert, and Tony Holler, just to name a few).


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About Jimson Lee

I am a Masters Athlete and Coach currently based in London UK. My other projects include the Bud Winter Foundation, writer for the IAAF New Studies in Athletics Journal (NSA) and a member of the Track & Field Writers of America.

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