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Jeremy Wariner 1:53.02 – When 400m Sprinter Moves up to 800m

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March 30, 2015 by Jimson Lee Leave a Comment

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There comes a time when an ageing or no longer dominant 400m sprinter decides to move up to the 800m.

Usually it’s the coach who decides this.  I’m not sure of Jeremy Wariner’s case.

Why would you want to move up?  For me, anything over 400 meters I take a taxi.

But seriously, there are several factors.  The number one reason is they aren’t getting any faster in the 400m.  They have stagnated in progression.  Most of these coaches train their 400m long to short.  And you wonder why their speed or acceleration development hasn’t progressed?

But by using a short to long approach, these same coaches assumes it’s easier to train for speed endurance (and special endurance), and thus the decision to move up to the 800 meters.

It’s a bit ironic, isn’t it?

Considerations before Moving Up

There are hundreds of reasons or considerations on why you may consider moving up to the 800 meters.  Here are only a handful:

  1. current 400m time and desired 800m time (try to compare with standards in your age group, or local competition)  If you don’t rank well in the 400m locally, there’s a possibility you won’t run well in the 800m if you look at conversion calculators (more on that later)
  2. chronological age of the athlete (i.e number of candles on your birthday cake)
  3. training age of the athlete (i.e. how many years of serious training)
  4. physical attributes of the athlete (tall, skinny, etc)
  5. current coach, teammates and support group
  6. desire for aerobic work
  7. mental toughness… at 500m they are all going to start kicking for home.  Are you ready for it?
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Jeremy Wariner 1:53.02

You have to break the ice sometime.  But when you see a 400m sprinter with 43+ speed going through 400m in 55 secs, that is jogging with all that speed reserve!

jeremy Wariner 2015 Bobcat Invitational 800m

So, based on his raw 400m speed, and if the training is in place, what should (could?) he run?

Bring out the Calculators

I remember watching Adam Steele, the 400 meter 2003 NCAA Outdoor champion from the University of Minnesota, move up to the 800m and never materialized.

I’ve seen several theoretical calculators, from the “4 seconds per lap rule” for distance events, “5 seconds per lap rule – or double 400m time plus 10 seconds” and even as high as double 400 meter time plus 12 seconds.

Canada’s Gary Reed is very close to double plus 10 second conversion.

If you use the double 400m plus 12 second rule, you will see a 50 and 1:52  for a 400/800 combo.  But I’ve seen guys break 1:50 but never go under 50.  And I’ve seen guys break 50 but run 1:55.  Or 1:59 in my case.

It’s like asking, which is tougher, 45.55 or 1:45.40?  These were the 2009 Berlin WC IAAF “A” standards.  The “B” standards are 45.95 and 1:46.60.  If you do the math, that’s double 400m time plus 14 seconds!  Or 7 seconds per lap.

So you know what you can do with that calculator, right?

Speed is the Key

The bottom line is:  You need 400m speed to run a good 800 meters.  Period.  Don’t argue with me.

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Sometimes, you have to ask a 800m runner to run a 4×400 (a relay where you can use 200m, 400m, 400mH and 800m runners).  Canada did this in ‘88 with Paul Osland and ‘92 with Freddie Williams.

Once upon a time, Kenya was a contender in the 4×400 meter relay.  They won a Silver at the 1968 Mexico City Olympics, and then a Gold in the 1972 Munich Olympics. Julius Sang also won a bronze in open 400.  Where are the sprinters now? (I’ll save that for another post)

Speaking of Kenya, David Rudisha is a good example.   He closed his 2009 season with a Sept 09 1:42.01 at Rieti.  Then in early 2010, he ran a 45.50 400 meters plus a 1:43.15 in Melbourne, winning by 3.5 sec!

How does 45.50 and 1:42.01 rank?

I took a random sample of a few well known athletes (my favorites… if you have some to add, please comment below)

Random Sample of Elite 400-800m times

It’s interesting that the men in 1:41 range “only” had 46 second 400m speed!

So what can Jeremy Wariner potentially run?

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About Jimson Lee

I am a Masters Athlete and Coach currently based in London UK. My other projects include the Bud Winter Foundation, writer for the IAAF New Studies in Athletics Journal (NSA) and a member of the Track & Field Writers of America.

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